How To Tell If A Calf Is Constipated

olderthandirt

Posted 5/23/2014 07:34 (#3883722) Bailiwick: Dogie raising experts. Need your help

Got a 15 yr old that had this brilliant idea to raise calves. Nosotros are having issues with a couple. They act like they are constipated, Trying to go poop but deceit. Also they seem to accept a lot of gut pain or human action so anyway. They are up and down and very restless. They tend to breath harder and harder as time goes on to. They are about week to 10 days former. Had all shots and colostrum at birth. We lost one and he is not taking it well and a 2nd would simply devistate him as he loves animals. They are on a very expert milk replacer. These are jerseys if it matters. Accept given penicillion and does not seem to do annihilation. Now I know why I gave up on calves years ago.   I dont think its pneumonia equally I treated for that and no response. Hes learning the lessons of life and farming fast. Any ideas?

dsfarms

Posted 5/23/2014 08:04 (#3883767 - in reply to #3883722) Subject: RE: Calf raising experts. Need your assistance

I am no expert but I had one do that a couple weeks ago, he was about 3 days old. He was swollen so I used a needle to vent his stomach from the left side, that seemed to make him feel ameliorate and so gave him 4 cc of baytril 100 in the muscle and a tetracyclene bolus. I threw the kitchen sink at him as he was down would non become up and kicking his feet similar he was in pain. He was barely breathing and his mouth was even cold. Within about 5 hours he was up and wanted to potable. What I am learning is that I wouldn't cartel try raising bottle calves without baytril. I am no expert but this is what works for me

I forgot, considering he barely had any fight left in him I did tube a little java into him to get some quick energy. This may not have helped merely like I said I was desparate and trying everything I knew to try (learned this trick from agtalk)

Edited past dsfarms 5/23/2014 08:06

super steve

Posted 5/23/2014 08:15 (#3883777 - in reply to #3883722) Discipline: RE: Calf raising experts. Demand your help

SWOntario

try giving him a dose of pepto bismal, I had a few holsteins plugged up and did this. few hours they were skillful to go mn_feeder

Posted 5/23/2014 08:20 (#3883786 - in reply to #3883722) Subject: RE: Calf raising experts. Need your help

MN

Information technology'south all part of raising bottle calves. And jerseys to boot!, used to say you look at a jersey wrong and they go down...

Couple of questions, do the calves have admission to clean water? How hot are you mixing the milk replacer? I havent fed bottle calves for a while so I forgot how much is the max solids per quart. Likewise, is the MR being mixed well? Are yous bottle feeding or are they drinking from buckets? The calves do much improve if they accept to suck information technology through a bottle (produces more saliva). To summarize dietary stuff, provide them with make clean water to drink throughout the day and recheck you MR mixing and concentration levels. Bank check and make certain the water is warm enough as well. And try to keep them on the bottle (not pail fed.)

Finally, if they take had vaccinations and colostrum, pretty young you volition wanna revacccinate in a few months.... If you lot suspect pneumonia I wouldn't waste time on penicillin, piece of work with a vet and get some exceede or draxxin.

Edit: also, make sure to continue fresh dogie starter in forepart of them as well.

Edited by mn_feeder five/23/2014 08:27

mn_feeder

Posted 5/23/2014 08:24 (#3883790 - in reply to #3883777) Subject: RE: Dogie raising experts. Demand your assistance

MN

You can buy it in (pepto) big jugs too.

Also, might consider adding fossil flour, bio moss, and gammulin.

Edit: suppose to be a response to Steve... Stupid iPhone

Edited past mn_feeder 5/23/2014 08:35

Grain Hay Cattle

Posted v/23/2014 08:52 (#3883829 - in reply to #3883722) Subject: RE: Calf raising experts. Need your help

SW Ohio

This is strange that yous posted this now. We simply treated a bailiwick of jersey nearly a calendar week to 10 days old with bloat for the very first time in the 10 years my husband has been raising baby calves. Are the calves sides (both sides) bloated? Ours were noticeably swollen and had the same symptoms you simply mentioned. I found a vet website on line that said to give 1/2 cc to 1cc Banamine and then 20-thirty mins afterwards requite 1/two pint mineral oil. The i nosotros treated was still very lively and was hungry considering he hadn't ate that morning. I was able to requite him his mineral oil in a bottle with a tiny scrap of milk for season. You volition probably accept to tube yours. I read that bloat in baby calves tin can be acquired by milk increased too much too fast or fed at irregular times. I'll try to observe the website. This i dose of mineral oil set ours directly. Nosotros have a few Jerseys mixed in with our small group of Holsteins and this one is the smallest, so I think he was getting likewise much milk. We dropped his milk back a little and has been fine since. Grain Hay Cattle

Posted 5/23/2014 08:55 (#3883832 - in respond to #3883722) Subject: RE: Calf raising experts. Need your help

SW Ohio

http://www.hoards.com/E_animalhealth/ah11

http://www.justanswer.com/big-animal-vet/4ryai-baby-dairy-dogie-fi...

I don't know how to hyperlink but you lot should be able to copy and paste websites.

Adept luck.

olderthandirt

Posted 5/23/2014 09:23 (#3883855 - in respond to #3883786) Field of study: RE: Calf raising experts. Need your assistance

No on the water but we thought of that to some say yes some say no. Yea I have been later him on the temp matter and he says it don't matter this time of year so we had a discussion on doing it right or not at all. They are on bottles. Yea the fourth dimension thing is a problem as he is going to school and milking cows later school so information technology is not as consistant equally information technology should be. I am yet planting so I am non around much. Had a few hours before next custom job and then hopfully we can effort some stuff that you all have suggested. Thanks. Forgot to add he doesn't seem to exist bloated that is what has be a little baffled. Just acts plugged. stomach is not large and swollen. Looks similar he just ate but not sticking out at all.

Edited past olderthandirt 5/23/2014 09:34

mn_feeder

Posted 5/23/2014 10:xviii (#3883889 - in answer to #3883855) Subject: RE: Calf raising experts. Demand your help

MN

The devil is in the details on canteen calves, consistency is important.

There is tons of keen research out there to aid, merely gotta trial and error till ya detect something that works in your system. I hope your son doesn't get discouraged if he loses some, that'southward part of it. Nosotros've all been in that location. Sometimes at that place's cypher y'all can do.

Does he mix the MR in one big batch and so feed or does he mix individually for each calf? If it's a mixing and measuring problem batch mixing tin can alleviate that some. Kinda sounds to me like at that place'd may be some undisolved solids in the milk he feeds, merely information technology'due south hard to diagnose on the internet without seeing the process.

Could besides try cutting their MR for a feeding or two, maybe give them one-half of what he has been feeding them for a few feedings so working them back up. Too much milk usually would lead to scours ... So I dont recollect it's too much milk, but yous could endeavor that as well. I always liked to feed half rates for a few days after I got calves and then work upward. But I would also give a bottle I electrolytes inbetween feedings. And so MR at 8, electrolytes at around noon then the night feeding effectually 7. E'er seemed to me to feed a lilliputian less and keep them hungry was better than too much.

Finally, I'd really encourage having water and starter in forepart of them. Drinking water and fifty-fifty a few mouthfuls of grain actually aids in rumen development. If you were worried they'd fill up on water and non drink milk you could take the h2o away before feeding and non out it back until afterwards he was done.

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Posted five/23/2014 12:18 (#3883959 - in reply to #3883777) Subject: RE: Dogie raising experts. Need your help

North Cental Mo.

I'd recollect pepto would constipated him more.

Roy

Burdick

Posted 5/23/2014 12:24 (#3883965 - in reply to #3883889) Subject: RE: Dogie raising experts. Need your help

sullivan il.

clean h2o and well mixed quality all milk calf replacer, try some mineral oil, I would guess nascence defect intestine not hooked to rectum if it has never had a bowel movement. I unremarkably get one out of every 3-400 calves take that defect MoDad

Posted v/23/2014 13:45 (#3884028 - in reply to #3883965) Subject: RE: Calf raising experts. Need your aid

Mid Mo

+i on the mineral oil. You tin only drench with a syringe if you need to.

Another thing to endeavor is an enema if you are sure information technology is constipated. Just a tube with a funnel, a little lube, some warm soapy water and stand back.

Definitely get some water to information technology also.

John SD

Posted 5/24/2014 04:51 (#3884663 - in reply to #3883959) Subject area: RE: Calf raising experts. Need your assist

I agree. If the calf is constipated, I would try milk of magnesia.

bordercolliesonly

Posted 5/24/2014 12:58 (#3885071 - in reply to #3883722) Subject: RE: Calf raising experts. Demand your assist

SE South Dakota

Could be Coccidiosis......I haven't had much feel with it only friends of mine have quite a bit of trouble with it then I've heard information technology described a footling like what you are describing.

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